{"id":799,"date":"2009-06-14T16:31:30","date_gmt":"2009-06-14T23:31:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bunnyears.net\/dan\/?p=799"},"modified":"2009-06-14T20:35:32","modified_gmt":"2009-06-15T03:35:32","slug":"how-not-to-sell-me-a-guitar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bunnyears.net\/dan\/?p=799","title":{"rendered":"How not to sell me a guitar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Since I have no good guitar store near me on the Peninsula (no, B Street does not count), going to Guitar Center is always something of a treat. I was visiting friends in the East Bay on Saturday, and those friends live very close to a Guitar Center. So after seeing them, I found that GC was staying open late for a &#8220;midnight madness&#8221; event and I checked it out.<\/p>\n<p>Mostly, I was looking for a case for a hard-to-fit guitar (they were very accomodating and tried three different models to no avail &#8212; it&#8217;s not their fault, it&#8217;s the guitar). I was also there to window shop and look to see if there was anything I would kick myself for passing on. Some floor models (including one stompbox I probably should have snagged), some accessories deals&#8230;a good sale, really.<\/p>\n<p>I am starting to think about selling my existing 12-string and getting a new one. This 1974 Epiphone Bard been in my family for several years and has some battle damage but still sounds lovely. Unfortunately it doesn&#8217;t match me &#8212; I have small hands, it has a huge 70s neck&#8230;hard to overcome that physical limitation. The instrument should match the player, and I don&#8217;t believe in owning guitars I won&#8217;t play. I haven&#8217;t played it in a year. I do love Taylors, so that&#8217;s my obvious replacement&#8230;but they&#8217;re spendy and I haven&#8217;t fallen in love with one yet. So, I&#8217;m browsing and thinking and collecting information on both Taylor acoustics and the 12-string T5. And maybe I&#8217;ll ultimately find something awesome by another manufacturer and go with that. I&#8217;m open.<\/p>\n<p>Dude working the acoustic room at Guitar Center greeted me warmly, then got caught up with other customers. I looked around and tried a few things for about 10 minutes, then made my way back to the electrics. He came out after me, apologizing for ignoring me (he didn&#8217;t, I was just browsing), and asked if there was anything I needed. Well, I was looking for a Taylor 12-string, I said. He then informed me that he had a great Martin 12-string for me to try and that he played on Bob Dylan&#8217;s &#8220;Tangled Up in Blue.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This would make him <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=k2d4FiAU2JcC&amp;pg=PA1&amp;lpg=PA1&amp;dq=chris+weber+bob+dylan&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=6YaAFjt8Uu&amp;sig=sISokrYhLrH8BN4mrR1r3Enz64I&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=D5U1SqHEE4HitgO6z5iKDw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=4#PPA125,M1\" target=\"_blank\">Chris Weber<\/a>, which could be entirely true &#8212; there are tons of excellent guitarists in the Bay Area with professional experience &#8212; but it&#8217;s also entirely irrelevant. I see this as the first sign of a bad salesman: When he wants you to know how cool he is. I immediately asked him what the hell he was doing in Guitar Center in Concord, but followed him back to the acoustics anyway. He went to the guitar &#8212; a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.martinguitar.com\/guitars\/choosing\/guitars.php?p=m&amp;m=D12X1\" target=\"_blank\">D12X1<\/a> &#8212; took it off the wall, and played it for me in the little fancy room where the pricey acoustics live. He then showed off his mad fingerpicking skills&#8230;for longer than I expected.<\/p>\n<p>This is the second sign of a bad salesman. I don&#8217;t care how it sounds and feels in <em>your <\/em>hands; I care how it sounds and feels in <em>mine<\/em>. If you want me to buy it, let me try it.<\/p>\n<p>I patiently wait for him to stop, then pick up the guitar myself. I am not really in the Martin camp; I respect the brand and I&#8217;ve tried a few (I considered buying a friend&#8217;s D-28 a few years back), but I haven&#8217;t played one that made me go &#8220;oh my god this is mine&#8221; yet, the way most of my guitars have spoken to me. And 12-strings are always more expensive because of the engineering that goes into them; that&#8217;s a lot of tension on a little wood, and of course it still has to sound good. It&#8217;s tough.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m thinking I&#8217;m looking at around $2K for my budget, selling my existing one as vintage (since it is) and saving for the rest. The price tag on this model: $600. It&#8217;s a Mexican import, which isn&#8217;t inherently a problem, but isn&#8217;t an heirloom, and that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m shopping for.<\/p>\n<p>Kat instantly knows this is not my next guitar. &#8220;There&#8217;s no way that&#8217;s real wood,&#8221; she says. &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s real wood!&#8221; assures the salesman. &#8220;That&#8217;s solid spruce on the top, and that&#8217;s the most important part to have, because all the tone comes from this area back here, behind the bridge.&#8221; That&#8217;s true. I know this; Kat knows this. Anybody who knows anything about guitars and shops for four-figure-price-tag instruments knows how the physics and resonance of an acoustic guitar works. Even the entry-level acoustics have solid spruce tops for this reason. It&#8217;s only worthy of note if they don&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>But Kat is not to be fooled; even she knows high-pressure laminate when she sees it. &#8220;Yeah, but the rest is laminate.&#8221; &#8220;Uh&#8230;yes,&#8221; he admits. &#8220;The rest is laminate but it sounds great. And you know, it&#8217;s Martin; they&#8217;re not going to put their name on something that isn&#8217;t good.&#8221; Martin describes the back and sides as &#8220;Mahogany Pattern HPL Textured Finish,&#8221; which is to say the wood grain on this guitar is basically a big laser-printed texture. I notice that the bottom strap button is missing, but I keep my mouth shut.<\/p>\n<p>I also notice that the neck is too wide for my tastes. This is entirely a personal ergonomic judgement; it might be built wonderfully, but if it doesn&#8217;t feel right in your hands, a lot of guitarists simply say &#8220;Sorry, no.&#8221; I play short-scale guitars and thin necks, because my hands are small. I avoid 70s Fenders and 50s Gibsons and Hamers and things like that just because of the neck shapes; I go for modern Fender C-shapes and Taylor&#8217;s neck profiles generally feel very good to me. I know pretty much as soon as I hold the neck if a guitar will work for me or not. I tell the salesman that it does sound nice but I don&#8217;t like the neck because my hands are too small. (Not that I&#8217;m not even blaming the instrument; I&#8217;m blaming Darwin.)<\/p>\n<p>He sniffs and mumbles something. I couldn&#8217;t hear him, so I ask him to repeat. &#8220;That&#8217;s a cop-out,&#8221; he says louder.<\/p>\n<p>This is the third sign of a bad salesman: The customer may not technically always be right, but the customer is <em>absofuckinglutely <\/em>right when it comes to <em>their own physiology<\/em>. It&#8217;s great that you played with Dylan, douchebag; my experience to counterbalance that is 38 years of owning the same two hands. Am I supposed to take that as some sort of challenge and buy the guitar to prove you wrong? I know what feels comfortable to me, and your insults will not change that. In this context, &#8220;that&#8217;s a cop-out&#8221; is possibly the stupidest thing a guitar salesman has ever said to me.<\/p>\n<p>I guess I&#8217;ve been lucky; he&#8217;s the first jackass I&#8217;ve found in a guitar store in a while, and he was actually my first bad sales experience in that particular Guitar Center. I have bought guitars and gear there before; I like shopping there instead of the closer San Francisco location because Concord is generally not staffed by guys like him. If I spot him next time, I&#8217;m avoiding him.<\/p>\n<p>Note to guitar shops: Don&#8217;t fuck with me. You&#8217;re only fucking your commission.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since I have no good guitar store near me on the Peninsula (no, B Street does not count), going to Guitar Center is always something of a treat. 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